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yakyakyak		#801	[-]
Posts: 1469 (07/09/09 04:54 PM) Bigshot Genius Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Considering most teams could only offer the mid-level, that deal was rather ridiculous.I never realised the Cavs owners were that rich that they could offer that kind of deal to player who is nothing but a role player.
BostonDave		#802	[-]
Posts: 144 (07/13/09 11:44 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Artest to the Lakers is friggin huge. No sense in whistling past the graveyard, that is a serious move. Hater of Haters.
Surferdad		#803	[-]
Posts: 2238 (07/13/09 12:56 PM) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	BostonDave wrote: Artest to the Lakers is friggin huge. No sense in whistling past the graveyard, that is a serious move. I happen to agree, but some people think they would been better off holding on to Ariza.
BostonDave		#804	[-]
Posts: 145 (07/13/09 01:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Surferdad wrote: BostonDave wrote: Artest to the Lakers is friggin huge. No sense in whistling past the graveyard, that is a serious move. I happen to agree, but some people think they would been better off holding on to Ariza. Ariza may continue to develop, Artest is there now. Prime time. Not to mention the added mental toughness he brings to a team that could use some. Hater of Haters.
Kuberski	Cavs looking at Barnes	#805	[-]
Posts: 338 (07/13/09 06:57 PM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Cavs have already signed Anthony Parker, and now looking at Barnes. I assume this means we are not interested. I don't know why....can only hope we have better options. Or maybe the FO thinks that Walker/Giddens are as good or better than someone like Barnes? I have my doubts. Parker presser The Cavs have called a press conference to announce the signing of guard/forward Anthony Parker. He'll meet with the Cleveland media at 2:45 p.m. Monday at Cleveland Clinic Courts. Parker, 34, received a two-year, $6 million deal with the Cavs. Most observers are assuming he'll come off the bench with the Cavs behind Delonte West at shooting guard. The Cavs are talking to the agent of Matt Barnes about the forward joining the team. They have about $2.8 million remaining to their mid-level exception. They might try to sign Barnes with the $2 million bi-annual exception, and save what's left of their mid-level for a later date. The Parker signing gives the Cavs 13 players, but only 10 with guaranteed contracts.
Surferdad		#806	[-]
Posts: 2240 (07/14/09 11:48 AM) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That is a good deal for the Cavs. Parker is a proven NBA player and arguably would have done as good a job as G.Hill (if not better) in backing up Pierce. It's hard to believe the C's would not at least match that offer which is about what they have in mind for Glen Davis (according to soothsayer extraordinaire Gary Tanguay). And it's a double whammy because a direct EC competitor gets him. Now if the Cavs sign Barnes too, I will be bummed. In short, I am of the opinion that you must overpay somewhat to keep a player away from a strong and direct competitior.
ManchvegasBob		#807	[-]
Posts: 2824 (07/14/09 01:34 PM) Juan(abee) Hollinger Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Didn't Orlando pay a pretty penny, especially considering the luxury, to match the Mavs 5-yr offer for Gortat. I guess Gortat is pi$$ed because he wanted the starting role with Dallas instead of being a sub to Superduperman.
Kuberski		#808	[-]
Posts: 339 (07/14/09 07:40 PM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wonder if we just might be holding out for Bowen? I personally think he's just about done, but our brass certainly knows better than I.....still a little mystified why we don't try to sign Barnes, as he seems fit for the part, and could probably be had for the bi-annual. The Milwaukee Bucks continue to make Bruce Bowen's $4 million expiring contract available, but word is no trade is close. If the Bucks don't strike a deal in the next two weeks, Bowen will be waived by Aug. 1 at a cost of just $2 million, making him a free agent sure to interest various rivals of the San Antonio Spurs since Bowen is not expected to return to the silver and black
ManchvegasBob		#809	[-]
Posts: 2825 (07/14/09 08:32 PM) Juan(abee) Hollinger Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Really - Bowen would be perfect - a nasty at the SF is what this team is missing.
MountVJackets		#810	[-]
Posts: 1146 (07/15/09 03:42 AM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	BostonDave wrote: Surferdad wrote: BostonDave wrote: Artest to the Lakers is friggin huge. No sense in whistling past the graveyard, that is a serious move. I happen to agree, but some people think they would been better off holding on to Ariza. Ariza may continue to develop, Artest is there now. Prime time. Not to mention the added mental toughness he brings to a team that could use some. Artest to LA is way blown out of proportion IMO. Artest is on the downside of his career, clearly slipping the last couple of years with injuries, shooting percentage, not to mention he's obviously the volatile sort. Who the hell knows if he'll get along with Kobe and Phil? Now that Artest is in Hollywood, who the hell knows if his focus will be on basketball 100%. This is NOT a slamdunk move, not by a longshot. Ariza is proven for LA, and is only getting better. They know Ariza works and letting him walk away like that was idiotic. To me the difference between LA this year and last was the fact that Ariza stepped up for them. Bynum was around this time but I didn't see him as factor one way or another. Now they could be on the verge of losing Odom. Artest to LA is fine with me.
Surferdad		#811	[-]
Posts: 2242 (07/15/09 06:35 AM) Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ManchvegasBob wrote: Really - Bowen would be perfect - a nasty at the SF is what this team is missing. He would be an improvement over Tony Allen in that he's at least as good a defender, would make less mistakes on the offensive side and can guard big SFs.
ugghhhh		#812	[-]
Posts: 1372 (07/16/09 12:01 AM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	MV, Artest is on fn 30yrs old.....it sucks LA got him. Ariza sucks and LA did a great job replacing him and it pisses me off.
Jughead		#813	[-]
Posts: 2197 (07/16/09 06:50 AM) Mamba Sucks Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Don't worry ugh, they are going to lose Odom and Bynum isn't the stud everyone told us he would have been when we kicked the Lakers' asses in 6 for 17. San Antonio is going t0o get by them this year I think. Denver has another shot at it too IMO...
ManchvegasBob		#814	[-]
Posts: 2828 (07/16/09 09:31 AM) Juan(abee) Hollinger Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The "anti-Kobe for MVP" chanter has spoken . . . I hope the Lakers slip, but they seem to be able to continually reload on the fly.
yakyakyak		#815	[-]
Posts: 1472 (07/16/09 12:16 PM) Bigshot Genius Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Surferdad wrote: ManchvegasBob wrote: Really - Bowen would be perfect - a nasty at the SF is what this team is missing. He would be an improvement over Tony Allen in that he's at least as good a defender, would make less mistakes on the offensive side and can guard big SFs. And Bowen can hit the 3's with consistency which is something Tony can't do period. I wouldn't mind Bowen but I worry about the age factor. A few long in a tooth guys are okay, but it's a long and grueling season and a slightly not so veteran backup SG/SF would be nicer. What's the Kobe-not-stopper Ruben Patterson doing these days? A reunion with him and Sheed? Let the bad boys role!
ManchvegasBob		#816	[-]
Posts: 2831 (07/16/09 02:01 PM) Juan(abee) Hollinger Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ruben Patterson is getting up there in age by now too - he was last spotted coaching his new babysitter on how to play tiddly winks.
MountVJackets		#817	[-]
Posts: 1148 (07/16/09 03:17 PM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I hope we have nothing to do Bowen. He's 37 and washed up. He's a major offensive liability and his strongsuit as a one on one defender has been greatly exagerrated as of late - those skills have diminished too with age. He'll bring nothing on the second unit except a 3pt shot now and then but he's a horrible free throw shooter, not that it will matter a whole lot but it should be noted. There's good reason why San Antonio got rid of him and probably wouldn't bring him back even for dirt cheap. I'm not sure we'll get him but I'll much rather have Moon who's no offensive juggernaut but at least he has great length and athleticism to score other ways besides shooting long range. Moon is the by far the better defensive option.
yakyakyak		#818	[-]
Posts: 1476 (07/16/09 06:05 PM) Bigshot Genius Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Didn't realize Bowen was that ancient. Let's pass on him then. It'll take a lot of wheeling and dealing to get Moon here apparently.
MountVJackets		#819	[-]
Posts: 1151 (07/17/09 10:28 AM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ugghhhh wrote: MV, Artest is on fn 30yrs old.....it sucks LA got him. Ariza sucks and LA did a great job replacing him and it pisses me off. If LA loses both Odom and Ariza, there is NO way they're a better team with Artest to replace those guys. San Antonio and Dallas have done a great job closing the gap, and we'll see what happens with Portland.
ugghhhh		#820	[-]
Posts: 1376 (07/17/09 05:22 PM) VIP Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I hope Odom leaves...that would be great. But I don't see them letting him leave without at least a sign and trade.